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[20:37] <Dokujisan> get projects like this ladder off the ground
[20:37] <Dokujisan> and maybe you guys can do something similar
[20:37] <tinason> hell yeah
[20:37] <Dokujisan> have a NCT for AU
[20:38] <shaggy> We were going to do a 2v2tourney after the 1v1..
[20:38] <Dokujisan> excellent
[20:38] <shaggy> But the 1v1 is taking a long time.
[20:38] <Dokujisan> how did the 1v1 go?
[20:38] <Dokujisan> oh it's still going on?
[20:38] <tinason> like, since october '08
[20:38] <tinason> haha
[20:38] <shaggy> Though ladders sound like a better idea
[20:38] <Dokujisan> yeah that's why I think a ladder is better
[20:38] <tinason> yeah
[20:38] <Dokujisan> it's ongoing
[20:38] <tinason> good idea
[20:38] <Dokujisan> and allows for people to jump in at any time
[20:38] <shaggy> Dokujisan: yeah just forfeited a guy for not playing.
[20:38] <Dokujisan> so it's good for attracting new clans
[20:39] <tinason> which is what au needs right now
[20:39] <shaggy> We should get to work on this tbh.
[20:39] <tinason> a more vibrant, active clan scene
[20:39] <Dokujisan> definitely
[20:39] <Dokujisan> who do you think would be good candidates for a NCT for australia?
[20:39] <Dokujisan> you two, right?
[20:39] <Dokujisan> and a few others
[20:40] <Dokujisan> here are my NCT notes so far...
[20:40] <tinason> i am sure aussienexers would want to be involved
[20:40] <Dokujisan> http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/nct/
[20:40] <Hew> tinason: I'm not in a clan
[20:40] <tinason> hew: yet
[20:40] <Hew> :O
[20:41] <tinason> very cool
[20:41] <tinason> i like how this is all community oriented
[20:41] <killquick> +1
[20:41] <tinason> feels very... inclusive
[20:42] * tinason pleays air guitar to Black Sabbath's 'Supernaut'
[20:42] <tinason> count doku, how does one become involved in this?
[20:43] <Zerugma> lol
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[20:44] <tinason> Dokujisan ?
[20:44] <NexRSS> First North American 3v3CTF Ladder to begin (NexuizNews) - http://www.nexuiznews.com/category/announcements/first-north-american-3v3ctf-ladder-begin
[20:44] <Dokujisan> tinason, I'll explain my gameplan a bit
[20:44] <shaggy> Oh yay gj nexrss! :D
[20:45] <Dokujisan> tinason, I did a lot last year to start up some activity for the north american nexuiz scene. How I did that mainly was to push communication a whole lot
[20:46] <Dokujisan> I was constantly talking to people about ideas, and getting various people on the same page
[20:46] <tinason> ok
[20:46] <Dokujisan> I also motivated people, built up interest in events, projects, ideas
[20:46] <Dokujisan> I talked some people into forming clans
[20:46] <Dokujisan> that previous weren't interested in clans
[20:46] * tinason looks at Hew
[20:46] <tinason> ok
[20:47] <Dokujisan> and kept pushing people to train and recruit
[20:47] <tinason> i think train/recruit are powerful
[20:47] <Dokujisan> thinking of whatever I could that would help build up a community
[20:47] <tinason> they have a direct impact on the player's enjoyment of th egame
[20:47] <tinason> good stuff ther
[20:47] <Dokujisan> so this year, I'm starting this NCT group so I can delegate a lot of this
[20:48] <tinason> we are trying to rebuild/recover from Nexworld's demise, so these ideas are handy right now
[20:48] <Dokujisan> because a lot of activity halted last year when I got a new job and got very busy
[20:48] <tinason> ah
[20:48] <tinason> real life (tm), it gets you every time
[20:48] <Dokujisan> and if there was a team setup, then things would have continued
[20:48] <tinason> yeah
[20:48] <Zerugma> agreed.
[20:48] <Dokujisan> I'll give you an example
[20:49] <Zerugma> goodbye
[20:49] <Dokujisan> yesterday, I said to the NCT people....
[20:49] <Dokujisan> Our goal this week is to get the ladder steup to start next week
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[20:49] <Dokujisan> so I outlined what needed to happen
[20:49] <Dokujisan> and we went through the initial steps to get things moving. Various people pitched in.
[20:49] <shaggy> Sorry for the lack of talking finishing off a project.
[20:50] <Dokujisan> we build up a map list that clans would vote on
[20:50] <shaggy> Dokujisan: once again sorry for not much speaking in the ntc channel too...
[20:50] <Dokujisan> that's ok shaggy
[20:50] <Dokujisan> tinason, if you guys want, I can act like a director for your activity in AU too, if you can form a NCT for AU
[20:51] <Dokujisan> I'll create a gameplan and start settings tasks, goals
[20:51] <Dokujisan> setting*
[20:51] <tinason> this does sound really good
[20:51] <shaggy> <3 school. "You need to get me a draft by Thursday 12 o'clock, but there is no chance of me checking the drafts in time"
[20:52] <Dokujisan> tinason, who would be candidates in Nex.au for a NCT?
[20:52] <Dokujisan> suggest some names
[20:52] <Dokujisan> people I could approach
[20:52] <tinason> one second, mate
[20:52] <Dokujisan> brb....refilling my coffee
[20:54] <shaggy> Dokujisan: dunno if this could be of any help, http://nexmarket.wikispaces.com/
[20:54] <shaggy> I made it to try to collect my ideas and thoughts about moving AU forward
[20:55] <Dokujisan> excellent
[20:55] <tinason> well, the guys from aussienexers are interested, specifially flea, tinason
[20:55] <Dokujisan> tinason, you're in aussienexers?
[20:55] <tinason> shaggy is always keen to do stuff too
[20:55] <Dokujisan> cool
[20:55] <tinason> yeah
[20:55] <Dokujisan> ok, so that is three
[20:55] <tinason> ill make a forum post about it
[20:55] <Dokujisan> if you had to guess at a few more that might be interested....
[20:55] <tinason> see if it can generate some interest
[20:56] <Dokujisan> otherwise, 3 could work for now
[20:56] <tinason> fabzor might
[20:56] <Dokujisan> he's a map maker, right?
[20:56] <tinason> yes
[20:56] <Dokujisan> excellent
[20:56] <tinason> he is australia's answer to mikee
[20:56] <tinason> heh
[20:56] <tinason> i mean that in a good way, of course
[20:56] <Dokujisan> I saw his video tutorials. Good stuff
[20:56] <tinason> yeah, he really is awesome
[20:56] <tinason> he is in #aussienexers now
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[20:57] <fabzor3> hi
[20:58] <Dokujisan> speak of the devil
[20:58] <tinason> indeed
[20:58] <fabzor3> wooo spooky
[20:58] <fabzor3> freshly pirated track http://www.fabianrosten.com/03%20Corridor.mp3 get it
[20:59] <flea_> it's no fun if I'm not infringing
[20:59] <flea_> :)
[20:59] <fabzor3> yeah
[20:59] <fabzor3> its not even out yet i dont think
[21:00] <Dokujisan> let's continue our discussion in #aussienexers
[21:00] <fabzor3> to the kangaroo machine!


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[21:11] <Dokujisan> this is where we pull people from the public servesr that are obviously noobs and we offer them training
[21:11] <tinason> i remamber shaggy doing these
[21:11] <Dokujisan> we're working on a basic curriculum
[21:11] <Dokujisan> and we're collecting trainersw
[21:11] <flea_> do you use the ninjaz dojo map?
[21:11] <Dokujisan> not usually
[21:11] <Dokujisan> I tend to just use silvercity
[21:12] <Dokujisan> it's expansive
[21:12] <Dokujisan> allows for just about any training
[21:12] <tinason> yeah, you can do anything there
[21:12] <Dokujisan> allows for two sets of trainers to act independantly on the same map
[21:12] <flea_> do you plan to train the trainers, or make videos?
[21:12] <Dokujisan> I know shaggy is familiar with the training sessions that I've done before
[21:12] <Dokujisan> if you do group training sesions, those are a blast
[21:12] <tinason> he hosted one of two at nexworld
[21:12] <Dokujisan> and they help new players too
[21:13] <shaggy> :)
[21:13] <Dokujisan> so, out of your list of servers, you'll need to have at least one where you can go for training
[21:13] <tinason> i checked out a training session with z about 6 months back, fun
[21:13] <killquick> yeah I gave him a nexworld for a day for one of his sessions
[21:13] <flea_> I heard the last one was a blast
[21:13] <shaggy> private.gallantclan.com:26001/0
[21:13] <Dokujisan> we're also working on training videos, and those will indirectly help you guys too. You can point people to them to learn Nexuiz tricks
[21:13] <Dokujisan> and that will save time
[21:13] <Dokujisan> but the training sessions are also about socializing
[21:14] <flea_> we will embed them on the website :)
[21:14] <Dokujisan> interaction
[21:14] <tinason> yeah
[21:14] <Dokujisan> people need to get the feeling that they are part of a community. That is how you retain them
[21:14] <fabzor3> hey im keen to do a strafe jumping map
[21:14] <tinason> perhaps a database of nexuiz you tube tutorials might help too
[21:14] <shaggy> I think doku might be working on some video project or is that still in the works?
[21:14] <fabzor3> a la defrag style
[21:14] <Dokujisan> fabzor3, the biggest thing we need help with are maps for TDM
[21:14] <Dokujisan> for a future TDM ladder
[21:14] <fabzor3> oh yeah
[21:14] <Dokujisan> but we'll get to that discussion later
[21:15] <fabzor3> well i have a new one in the works called vectorwars
[21:15] <fabzor3> im trying to bring some q2 back into the game
[21:15] <tinason> yay
[21:15] <Dokujisan> ok, so all of this ....all of these steps to building up Nex.AU, starts with collecting information
[21:15] <fabzor3> so i can make that tdm
[21:15] <Dokujisan> who are the regulars in Nexuiz.AU?
[21:15] * shaggy was working on the quakelivers
[21:15] <tinason> yes
[21:15] <Dokujisan> write the list down
[21:15] <tinason> im there a bit
[21:15] <Dokujisan> hand it to me
[21:15] <tinason> killquick, fabz
[21:16] <Dokujisan> put a check next to the ones in clans. Put another mark next to the ones who could potentially be in clans
[21:16] <tinason> most of us are regulars actually :)
[21:16] <fabzor3> show me quake live for ubuntu and ill show you a happy fabzor3
[21:16] <flea_> the newbies nearly always start on a CTF server
[21:16] <fabzor3> whats mumble btw?
[21:16] <Dokujisan> A voice chat program
[21:16] <Dokujisan> open source
[21:16] <tinason> Mumble offers Voice Chat capability similar to Teamspeak or Ventrilo
[21:16] <Dokujisan> similar to ventrilo
[21:16] <fabzor3> heh im not intrested in voice chat
[21:17] <fabzor3> use more bandwidth then nexuiz itself
[21:17] <tinason> fabz, thats only coz your voice didnt break yet
[21:17] <fabzor3> yeah thats possibly it
[21:17] <Dokujisan> it's pretty useful for good competition. it attracts more competitive players
[21:17] <flea_> what does mumble give you over teamspeak?
[21:17] <tinason> :)
[21:17] <fabzor3> also
[21:17] <Dokujisan> flea_, cross platform
[21:17] <fabzor3> that i get abused by nerds i want to fucking punch
[21:17] <fabzor3> but yeah
[21:17] <Dokujisan> it's also open source and a lot of people like that
[21:18] <Dokujisan> ok....so do you guys have a text editor open?
[21:18] <flea_> ah ok, it's just that I have a 20slot TS server sitting idle
[21:18] <shaggy> Yes
[21:18] <Dokujisan> have a text editor open at all times
[21:18] <aurix> teamspeak works on linux dosent it tho?
[21:18] <shaggy> See: 1. but if they show up and there isn't anything to keep them around, that's bad
[21:18] <shaggy> 2. who are the regulars in Nexuiz.AU? write the list down. put a check next to the ones in clans. Put another mark next to the ones who could potentially be in clans
[21:18] <shaggy> 3.
[21:18] <flea_> Server Contacts
[21:18] <flea_> Gaming Forums
[21:18] <flea_> Boot Camp
[21:18] <flea_> Regulars
[21:18] <flea_> - those in clans
[21:18] <flea_> - those who could be in clans
[21:18] <flea_> -
[21:18] <shaggy> Random book check :P
[21:18] <Dokujisan> good job flea
[21:18] <flea_> :")
[21:18] <Dokujisan> that's exactly what I'm looking for
[21:18] <shaggy> Damn!
[21:19] <shaggy> teachers pet! :P
[21:19] <Dokujisan> ok how is the 1v1 tourney going?
[21:19] <tinason> hehe
[21:19] * flea_ looks at shaggy
[21:19] <shaggy> Well we just got rid of one match
[21:19] <flea_> which one?
[21:19] <tinason> it about to enter its 9th month
[21:19] <shaggy> Kq vs Guns --> KQ wins by forfeit
[21:19] <Dokujisan> you need to get that 1v1 tourney completed. Don't let it drag on.
[21:20] <flea_> +!
[21:20] <shaggy> Working on it
[21:20] <Dokujisan> get the conversation started on getting 3v3CTF ladder started. Begin the conversation with people starting today.
[21:20] <Dokujisan> Chat a lot...
[21:20] <Dokujisan> a whole lot
[21:20] <flea_> the tourney generated a lot of interest
[21:20] <Dokujisan> excellent
[21:20] <Dokujisan> don't let the momentum from that stop
[21:20] <flea_> which kinda died out when it dragged on for so long
[21:20] <Dokujisan> right, that's bad
[21:20] <shaggy> Lol US tourney is still going
[21:20] <tinason> and remember, folks, we have a new forum (see topic) that we can use as a communication tool too
[21:20] <flea_> so we need to get that going again
[21:20] <Dokujisan> it has to be completed
[21:21] <Dokujisan> get that tourney under your belt. that's your first tourney right?
[21:21] <tinason> yes
[21:21] <flea_> I think a CTF tourney would be great
[21:21] <shaggy> JOB FOR SHAGGY: I will talk to -z- about getting au.nexuizclans.com
[21:21] <Dokujisan> ok where is your forum?
[21:21] <Dokujisan> Where does all of the Nexuiz.AU dicussion take place?
[21:21] <flea_> http://forums.aussienexers.com
[21:21] <Dokujisan> and is everyone on there?
[21:21] * flea_ beats tinason
[21:22] <shaggy> no
[21:22] <flea_> no
[21:22] <tinason> nexuiz.au, and here
[21:22] <tinason> hehe
[21:22] <Dokujisan> do people in IRC look at that forum?
[21:22] <tinason> yes
[21:22] <Dokujisan> do they even know about it?
[21:22] <tinason> most do
[21:22] <Dokujisan> ok, in 2.5 and up, there is a help system that is programmable for servers
[21:22] <flea_> we are in the process of rebuilding at the moment
[21:22] <tinason> it's url will become part of the server's motd soon also
[21:22] <Dokujisan> and you can use that help system to constantly announce information too, not just provide helpful tips
[21:22] <shaggy> help.cfg?
[21:22] <Dokujisan> like once per map
[21:23] <tinason> cool
[21:23] <Dokujisan> make an announcement
[21:23] * flea_ thinks about Lithrem's SPAM bind
[21:23] <shaggy> I'll add a training vote that starts the config.
[21:23] <Dokujisan> you guys need a channel specifically for training
[21:23] * tinason thinks about flea_ thinking about Lithrem's SPAM bind
[21:23] <tinason> ok
[21:23] <Dokujisan> see this page.... http://nullgaming.com/bootcamp
[21:24] * flea_ thinks about why tinason is thinking about what I am thinking about
[21:24] * Lithrem wonders why everyone is thinking about his binds
[21:24] <Dokujisan> and here is the beginning of some notes I started for a curriculum http://nullgaming.com/bootcamp/notes
[21:24] <killquick> ROFL
[21:24] <Dokujisan> also, nifrek is working on some curriculum notes for teaching 1v1
[21:24] <shaggy> Dokujisan: should we make a new channel or should it be #nbc.nexuiz ?
[21:24] <tripod> hey all
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[21:24] <tinason> very cool
[21:24] <Dokujisan> shaggy, I dunno. what do you guys thing?
[21:24] <Dokujisan> think
[21:25] <tinason> yes! one faabzor is never enough!
[21:25] <Dokujisan> do you want to pool efforts together into one channel?
[21:25] <shaggy> I am thinking we don't have enough people for a whole new channel just for training
[21:25] <Dokujisan> shaggy, I'm going to have things moved to #nexuiz.bootcamp
[21:25] <shaggy> so yeah maybe we should #Nexuiz.AU it.
[21:26] <tinason> pooling has added benefits of sharing resources and ideas globally, but, players always gravitate to others players they can actually play against (due to latency constraints)
[21:26] <tinason> i say for boot camps, it be pooled
[21:26] <tripod> for bootcamp, how about make a map for it
[21:26] <Dokujisan> ok tinason
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[21:26] <Dokujisan> tripod, I think we have a decent enough map. I use silvercity a lot
[21:26] <shaggy> Dokujisan: Do you mind me asking -z- about an au.nexuizclans.com?
[21:26] <tripod> Dokujisan: ;) kk
[21:26] <Dokujisan> for starters. If you want to make a map, we could use more TDM maps
[21:27] <fabzor31> oh yes it is nm
[21:27] <Dokujisan> shaggy, that would be great
[21:27] <shaggy> k
[21:27] <shaggy> Anyway I need to go to bed...
[21:27] <fabzor31> yeah get into mapping
[21:27] <shaggy> :|
[21:27] <fabzor31> k night man
[21:27] <shaggy> I want to know what is said while I am gone
[21:27] <flea_> gn shaggy , I';; send you my notes
[21:27] <shaggy> Can you make sure you keep notes :)
[21:27] <tripod> night shaggy
[21:27] <shaggy> k
[21:27] <killquick> shaggy: nite
[21:28] <tinason> nite shagzz
[21:28] <Dokujisan> night shaggy
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[21:28] <Dokujisan> ok guys so you need a set of people willing to train newcomers
[21:28] <Dokujisan> either spontaneous training or some scheduled group training
[21:28] <Dokujisan> both are good
[21:29] <Grasshopper_> hello all
[21:29] * tinason sticks his hand up
[21:29] <Dokujisan> scheduled group training is for regulars to help everybody refine their skills...and to help keep everybody social
[21:29] <killquick> hello mr Grasshopper_
[21:29] <tinason> hi Grasshopper_
[21:29] <tripod> hey Grasshopper_
[21:29] <Dokujisan> ok so we have one trainer...tinason
[21:29] <tinason> but i cant only take a news class
[21:29] <Dokujisan> I'm sure I can vouch for shaggy too
[21:29] <tinason> im not that good
[21:29] <flea_> I can train laser jumping
[21:29] <killquick> im sure shaggy will be in
[21:29] <Dokujisan> ok three trainers
[21:29] <flea_> (but not much else)
[21:29] <tinason> news = newbs
[21:30] * tripod is noob
[21:30] <tinason> damnit
[21:30] <tinason> i have a starring role in a show called 'Real Life', and i must depart
[21:30] <tinason> sorry
[21:30] <tinason> bbl
[21:30] <flea_> l8r tinason
[21:30] <Dokujisan> ok... so flea_ you wrote those names down right?
[21:30] <tripod> cya mater
[21:30] <Dokujisan> seeya tinason
[21:30] <flea_> yes
[21:30] <Dokujisan> ok. Also ask around about that as well.
[21:30] <Dokujisan> when you chat with people in #nexuiz.au
[21:31] <Dokujisan> of all of the people on pub servers, what percentage of them do you think hang out on IRC?
[21:31] <flea_> pagey used to be good at training, but he had a little meltdown recently
[21:31] <Grasshopper_> :-(
[21:31] <flea_> about 10-20%
[21:31] <Dokujisan> yeah I saw some of that
[21:31] <Dokujisan> ok... 10 20 %
[21:31] <Dokujisan> if you can do anything to increase that number...that would be beneficial
[21:32] <Dokujisan> how many in IRC do you think go to the forum?
[21:32] <flea_> the thing is, not much happens in IRC
[21:32] <Dokujisan> well you need to change that too
[21:32] <Grasshopper_> really?
[21:32] <flea_> agreed
[21:32] <Dokujisan> remember, your job is to chat
[21:32] <Dokujisan> communicate
[21:32] <tripod> brb guys
[21:32] <Dokujisan> talk a whoooooole lot
[21:32] <aurix> needs more explosions and sex
[21:32] <Grasshopper_> lol
[21:32] <tripod> aurix: :)
[21:32] <flea_> needs more headshots
[21:32] <tripod> needs more nex
[21:32] <flea_> the problem is, I find playing nexuiz more interesting than chatting in IRC
[21:32] <Dokujisan> one of the things you can say in #nexuiz.au is talk about this chat with Dokujisan
[21:33] <Grasshopper_> #nexuiz.nct we cant shut up
[21:33] <flea_> unless something interesting is being discussed
[21:33] <flea_> yes, will do
[21:33] <Dokujisan> yeah...actually you guys could just join #nexuiz.nct if you want.
[21:33] <tripod> brb smoko
[21:33] <Dokujisan> it'll give you ideas
[21:33] <aurix> goodluck/havefun
[21:34] <Grasshopper_> is there a list of mappers here from Au
[21:34] <flea_> only 1 i think
[21:35] <Grasshopper_> i know fabzor maps
[21:35] <flea_> yes, other ppl are learning
[21:36] <Grasshopper_> tell them to come see me in NCT
[21:36] <flea_> ooohh
[21:36] <flea_> ok
[21:36] <Grasshopper_> http://www.nexuizninjaz.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=35
[21:36] <Dokujisan> flea_, fabs could help things a lot by teaching others in AU to map
[21:36] <Dokujisan> mapping helps drive conversation too
[21:36] <Dokujisan> you guys need to talk
[21:36] <flea_> well, he is making videos atm
[21:37] <flea_> which I am yet to see
[21:37] <Dokujisan> it keeps people interested. It gives them a reason to be in IRC
[21:37] <flea_> (been a little busy)
[21:37] <Grasshopper_> there are plenty of things there for them to help learn it . i have a thread there with collections from all over
[21:37] <Dokujisan> ok, so what sort of things could be blasted to the public servers?
[21:37] <flea_> ok, sometimes we have a problem with times, being on the other side of the world and all
[21:37] <Dokujisan> using the help system
[21:37] <flea_> the forum address
[21:37] <flea_> the IRC channels
[21:38] <Dokujisan> yeah, you guys need to create your own little pool of activity
[21:38] <flea_> training times
[21:38] <tinason> points of acceptable etiquitte
[21:38] <Dokujisan> a link to the bootcamp website for AU
[21:38] <Dokujisan> letting people know that there is free Nexuiz training available
[21:38] <Dokujisan> at anytime
[21:38] <flea_> ah yes, the code of conduct
[21:38] <tripod> back
[21:39] * tinason missed tripod
[21:39] <flea_> which is a good topic to bring up with Dokujisan and Grasshopper_ here
[21:39] * tripod blushes
[21:39] <tripod> lol
[21:39] <tripod> tinason: fixed the compiz prob btw
[21:39] <Dokujisan> so ... tell me some of the things that you guys could raise as conversation in #nexuiz.au?
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[21:39] <Dokujisan> anyone?
[21:40] <tinason> i think a first step would be to find out what the players want in thier community, and respond accordlngly
[21:40] <tripod> trickjumping :D, me to get better
[21:40] <tinason> particularly with regards to the servers
[21:40] <tinason> since its the servers that are central to the experience
[21:41] <tripod> sometimes i experience weird PL in aussienexers :(
[21:41] <Dokujisan> here are some suggestions for discussion.. "Who here has considered starting up a server?" "Is anyone here interested in receiving some nexuiz trianing?" "We're thinking of starting a 3v3CTF tourney. Who here is interested?"
[21:41] * flea_ I am so glad we banned bots in this channel
[21:41] <Dokujisan> "Who here is interested in learning how to make maps?"
[21:41] <Grasshopper_> pick me
[21:42] <flea_> well, the harder question is, how do we get people to come to IRC in the first place
[21:42] <Dokujisan> there are times when I have joined #nexuiz.au before and I simply ask a question like the above, and it spawns a whole conversation
[21:42] <Grasshopper_> if a new or existing forum needs anything for mapping tutorials i am willing to help
[21:42] <Dokujisan> flea that mibbit program is very useful for that
[21:43] <Dokujisan> here is something with regard to the forum....
[21:43] <Dokujisan> technically, there is only one main nexuiz forum on alientrap
[21:43] <Dokujisan> but it became useful for the north american players to have a separate forum on nexuizninjaz.com
[21:43] <Dokujisan> that created a bit of a separation, which wasn't ideal
[21:43] <Dokujisan> however
[21:44] <Dokujisan> the powers that be over at alientrap.org aren't always open minded to things
[21:44] <flea_> oic
[21:44] <Dokujisan> so they wouldn't likely be interested in adding a Nexuiz.au sub category, for example
[21:44] <Dokujisan> and it's not really worth trying to convince them
[21:44] <flea_> agree to that
[21:44] <Dokujisan> you have the ability to make your own little ecosystem, just like we did
[21:44] <tinason> aussienexers ftw
[21:45] <Grasshopper_> yes
[21:45] <tinason> we are just getting off the ground with it
[21:45] <Dokujisan> yep...aussienexers is like nexuizninjaz
[21:45] <Grasshopper_> link?
[21:45] <tinason> http://www.aussienexers.com/forum/
[21:45] <tinason> and i do mean just
[21:45] * flea_ tinason beat me
[21:45] <tinason> yay!
[21:46] <Grasshopper_> lol bookmarked
[21:46] * killquick flea beat me saying tinason beat me
[21:46] <flea_> so right now we are starting fresh
[21:46] <Dokujisan> another thing you can let people know in #nexuiz.au is that you have formed a Nexuiz Community Team for AU with the help of Dokujisan and some others
[21:46] <flea_> because of the ... erm .. recent troubles
[21:46] <Dokujisan> and make sure they understand that things are going to be improving a lot from here on out
[21:46] <Dokujisan> generate interest
[21:46] <Dokujisan> make IRC something worth reading
[21:47] <Dokujisan> ok... so, another idea for expanding the Nexuiz.au community
[21:47] * killquick thinks of juicy nexuiz gossip to spread
[21:47] <Grasshopper_> for instance i could post a Au version of my mapping rescources thread
[21:47] <Dokujisan> ask people if they have any gaming friends who might be interested in Nexuiz and tell them to show it off to their friends
[21:47] <Grasshopper_> from there i could help gather mappers
[21:47] <flea_> that would be awesome
[21:47] <Dokujisan> it sounds simple, but it actually works
[21:47] <Dokujisan> you simply need to ask people
[21:47] <Dokujisan> you can call it a "campaign"
[21:47] <Dokujisan> "Join the campaign"
[21:47] <Dokujisan> "invite your friends to Nexuiz"
[21:47] <Dokujisan> or something
[21:48] <Dokujisan> a lot of regulars in Nexuiz were brought in that way
[21:48] <Dokujisan> and when people are showing Nexuiz to their friends, have them chat in IRC too
[21:48] <Dokujisan> so their friends can interact with you guys
[21:48] <Dokujisan> see that there is some life to the community
[21:48] <Dokujisan> and they can be offered training if they are interested in the game
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[21:49] <Dokujisan> you may think that sounds a little silly...but it's really not
[21:49] <Grasshopper_> wb fabzor3
[21:49] <flea_> I also found that people liked chatting about tournament matches
[21:49] <Dokujisan> yeah definitely
[21:49] <Dokujisan> good call
[21:49] <Grasshopper_> posting demo vids about it
[21:49] <flea_> ppl love competition, and being part of something
[21:49] <Dokujisan> ask shaggy to post an update on the 1v1 tourney on NexuizNews.com AND on the forum
[21:49] <Dokujisan> but the conversation needs to start now about the upcoming 3v3CTF (or 2v2TDM if you prefer) tourney
[21:50] <Dokujisan> I suggest CTF because, as you said, there are more CTF players
[21:50] <flea_> and we have big clans
[21:50] <Dokujisan> and that would be a way to bring in people from the pubs to the private community
[21:50] <Dokujisan> how many clans?
[21:50] <Dokujisan> if any of them are too big, try to get them to split heh
[21:50] <killquick> 4 I would say
[21:50] <Dokujisan> for a community with your size, you need clans that are about 5-6 members tops
[21:51] <Dokujisan> more than that is not healthy for the community
[21:51] <Grasshopper_> oh ?
[21:51] <Dokujisan> yeah
[21:51] <Dokujisan> they need more clans...not 3-4 clans with 10 members
[21:51] <Grasshopper_> breATHING ROOM?
[21:51] <Grasshopper_> O H YA
[21:51] <tinason> and clan old farts wasnt meant to be a competitive clan, just a fun clan, but, i guess we can change that
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[21:51] <Grasshopper_> grrr cap lock
[21:52] <Dokujisan> competitive doesn't have to mean all serious. It can just mean "active"
[21:52] <Dokujisan> active is best
[21:52] <flea_> fabzor3 is like a tech-gremlin magnet
[21:52] <Grasshopper_> and active is fun
[21:52] <Dokujisan> so group training sessions is where weaker clans can improve alongside stronger clans
[21:52] <Dokujisan> and also where you can get regulars to possibly be interested in joining a clan
[21:52] <Dokujisan> if they haven't considered it before
[21:52] <flea_> we also need to get a bat cave running, but that is a longer term project
[21:53] <Dokujisan> I talked a LOT of people into forming or joing clans last year.
[21:53] <tinason> maybe
[21:53] <fabzor3> ?
[21:53] <tinason> a cave can be up n running quickly if need be
[21:53] <fabzor3> teach gremlin flea_?
[21:53] <Dokujisan> I mean a lot of people. I was constantly discussing it.
[21:53] <flea_> tech-gremlin not teach gremlin
[21:53] <tinason> you do a lot to promote the game, Dokujisan
[21:53] <flea_> there has to be a reason to be in a clan
[21:54] <aurix> scrims
[21:54] <Dokujisan> I think Nexuiz deserves to have a thriving community....in US, EU and AU
[21:54] <tinason> free beer?
[21:54] <flea_> I only joined one because a 14kid convinced me
[21:54] <tinason> yeah
[21:54] <tinason> aussies love FPS games
[21:54] <fabzor3> yeah
[21:54] <fabzor3> what does tech-gremlin mean?
[21:54] <tinason> no reason why nexuiz cant take a peice of the gaming audience here
[21:54] <fabzor3> lke a tech head?
[21:54] <Dokujisan> ok... flea give me a list of your notes again
[21:54] <Dokujisan> basic topics
[21:54] <flea_> Server Contacts
[21:54] <flea_> Gaming Forums
[21:54] <flea_> Boot Camp
[21:54] <flea_> Regulars
[21:54] <flea_> - those in clans
[21:54] <flea_> - those who could be in clans
[21:54] <flea_> -
[21:54] <flea_> Bootcamp Notes
[21:54] <flea_> http://nullgaming.com/bootcamp/notes
[21:54] <flea_> Boot Camp IRC channel
[21:54] <flea_> irc://irc.quakenet.org/#nbc.nexuiz
[21:54] <flea_> Trainers
[21:54] <flea_> Shaggy
[21:54] <flea_> Tinason
[21:54] <flea_> Flea
[21:54] <flea_> IRC
[21:54] <flea_> Discuss bootcamp, NCT,
[21:54] <flea_> Help System Broadcast
[21:54] <flea_> Forum Address
[21:54] <flea_> IRC channels
[21:54] <flea_> bootcamp training times
[21:54] <flea_> IRC topics
[21:54] <flea_> "Who here has considered starting up a server?" "Is anyone here interested in receiving some nexuiz trianing?" "We're thinking of starting a 3v3CTF tourney. Who here is interested?"
[21:54] <flea_> NCT
[21:54] <flea_> Tournament
[21:54] <flea_> Shaggy post an update on the forum and #nexuiz.au
[21:55] <fabzor3> whats a tech gremlin?
[21:55] <Dokujisan> hell yeah
[21:55] <Dokujisan> a great start
[21:55] <flea_> fabzor3: no, a tech-gremlin is like a bug or a glitch
[21:56] <fabzor3> oh
[21:56] <fabzor3> yeah
[21:56] <fabzor3> bugfindings a great help
[21:56] <Dokujisan> ok, so your primary job from now on is to chat with people
[21:56] <Dokujisan> talk...talk a lot
[21:56] <tinason> hi flea
[21:56] <Dokujisan> constantly ask people things
[21:56] <Dokujisan> ask about their interest in things
[21:56] <Grasshopper_> may i add a couple notes here?
[21:56] <flea_> yes
[21:56] <Grasshopper_> for future
[21:56] <flea_> pls
[21:56] <Dokujisan> discuss some topics and see if anyone might be interested
[21:56] <Grasshopper_> maps / mapping
[21:56] <Dokujisan> go for it Grasshopper_
[21:56] <Grasshopper_> there are alot of broken maps
[21:56] <tinason> the more people that contribute to the discussions the better
[21:57] <Grasshopper_> some that need small details and some that have potential
[21:57] <Dokujisan> yeah we're working on a plan to fix some existing maps to make them competition ready
[21:57] <Dokujisan> and....oh this is another great point
[21:57] <tinason> my connections from my isp sucks a lot, so i have been considering playing less, and mapping more
[21:57] <Dokujisan> flea add this... for yet another group activity that you can use to build the community, you can actively test out new maps and announce it to everyone when a new map is being tested
[21:58] <Dokujisan> I do it occasionally on the batcaves
[21:58] <Dokujisan> and it's fun
[21:58] <Grasshopper_> i am here to take the load off doku about these mapping projects
[21:58] <Dokujisan> everyone chats about the map
[21:58] <tinason> community bug testing on maps
[21:58] <flea_> OK
[21:58] * flea_ sry, caps
[21:58] <Dokujisan> so we're trying to setup a regular process for having these map testing "parties"
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[21:58] <flea_> there are old maps that seem to have developed new holes (like dm_castle)
[21:59] <Grasshopper_> for example , docs hell incarnate is a good map but its all red in saturation . blue team has bad time on that map because they cant see red team clearly . but this is being fixed
[21:59] <tinason> i think thats an awesome map
[21:59] <Dokujisan> there's a new version of dm_castle that Cortez made, but it's not very playable
[21:59] <flea_> Dokujisan: there are set maps for 1v1, is there a list of ladder maps for ctf?
[21:59] <tinason> a bit flat, but lots of fun
[21:59] <Dokujisan> flea_, we created a list of maps for clans to vote on
[22:00] <Dokujisan> http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/ladder/
[22:00] <Dokujisan> that is to start. I think a few of them are too big for 3v3, but that is what we started with
[22:00] <flea_> when do you think that vote will complete?
[22:00] <Dokujisan> this friday, I hope
[22:00] <tinason> acrossanocean12 anyone? :P
[22:00] <Dokujisan> that is the deadline that I set
[22:01] <Dokujisan> like reservoir...isn't a 3v3 map
[22:01] <tinason> nah too big
[22:01] <flea_> ok, I've played reservoir with 12 players, and it is still too big
[22:01] <Grasshopper_> lol
[22:01] <flea_> you might see 1 NMY player on your way to the flag
[22:01] * flea_ JMHO
[22:02] <Dokujisan> ok from now on, you guys who consider yourselves part of NCT.au should join #nexuiz.nct
[22:02] <Dokujisan> and we'll have these conversations there
[22:02] <flea_> at any rate, once your 3v3 tourney kicks off, we will be the beneficiaries of your experience
[22:02] <Grasshopper_> fabzor3: you are on aussienexers right?
[22:02] <Dokujisan> yeah, and you can use our ladder as conversation starter for au too
[22:03] <Dokujisan> The same people that are running the US CTF ladder are helping us to startup the AU ladder
[22:03] <Dokujisan> something like that
[22:04] <flea_> more Octobre too :)
[22:04] <Dokujisan> ok this concludes our first NCT.au meeting :-)
[22:04] <Grasshopper_> yay
[22:04] <Grasshopper_> welldone
[22:04] <Dokujisan> good deal
[22:04] <flea_> thanks Dokujisan
[22:05] <Dokujisan> np flea. It's exciting to see things rolling.
[22:05] <fabzor3> Grasshopper_: im on the aussienexers forum as fabzor3 yeah
[22:05] <Dokujisan> i'm going to save this log
[22:05] <Dokujisan> and put it on http://nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/nct
[22:05] <flea_> yes, me too, to fill out my notes
[22:05] <flea_> oh right, great
[22:05] <Dokujisan> oh? ok send me your log then
[22:05] <flea_> lol
[22:05] <Dokujisan> it's faster for me
[22:05] <flea_> ah k, hang on
[22:05] <Dokujisan> I really need to be getting to my work
[22:05] <Grasshopper_> ok i was thinking of starting a thread for mappers there . and was hoping you might be my wingman on that