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09:54BorTEKthx slash
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09:58Dokujisanslash\, MooKow AnnKittyKat
Dokujisansomeone go around and make one last announcement
Dokujisanchange the announcement to "right now" instead of 10pm
MooKowk
claysmisnt that the same thing?
09:59claysmright now and 10pm
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Dokujisanclaysm, I wanted to emphasize "right now"
claysmyeah i know
claysmi emphasized it as well
AnArKiSt0.o it's 10pm EST.
10:01MooKowk so
MooKoweveryone who's in here, wake up
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Dokujisanhighlight everyone
AnArKiStI'm here!
BorTEK*yawn*...goodmorning :-)
T0olboxI'm here
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10:02claysmtoolz you werent invited
MooKow[-z-] Dokujisan pavlvs SleepyCoder AnArKiSt AnnKittyKat Azruelli BorTEK claysm DeathDoom MmmMmmGud nifrek_ slash\ Surbtop T0olbox Zerugma victim Ulysses
MooKowlets get this show on the road
AzruelliWhat?
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shaggyHey
MooKowa NA community meeting
MooKowright here right now
Azruellimmk.
MmmMmmGudhey i made it
Surbtopwat
AzruelliHang on.
MooKowahh AnnKity just in time
claysmwait we can start im here
annkityhello here through mobile
MooKowyeah i see
slash\im here
MooKowwe'll have to talk slow then
AnArKiStHere thru notebook
10:03DokujisanATTENTION: Before the discussion begins, everyone read this page. http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
annkityI'll just read
Dokujisan changes room topic to: ATTENTION: Before the discussion begins, everyone read this page. http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
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praebot:o hi ohaii !
SoldierXhello
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DokujisanATTENTION: Before the discussion begins, everyone read this page. http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
10:04claysmnice page doku
Zerugma<MooKow> [-z-] Dokujisan pavlvs SleepyCoder AnArKiSt AnnKittyKat Azruelli BorTEK claysm DeathDoom MmmMmmGud nifrek_ slash\ Surbtop T0olbox Zerugma victim Ulysses
Zerugma<MooKow> lets get this show on the road
nifrek_!
Zerugmasay what?
10:04MooKowZerugma: community meeting right now
10:04MooKowNA community
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Zerugmawhere.........................
DokujisanATTENTION: Before the discussion begins, everyone read this page. http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
10:05Zerugma:o
Surbtops/I have a plan/I have a dream/
MooKowlol
Dokujisanhaha
MooKowno mention of me in the map part :( :P
10:06claysmoh well
ProjektGhost"I have a plan."
ProjektGhostDoku's Obama
MooKowDokujisan: ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh im willing to be a moderator for servers!!!!
SoldierXlol, hey MooKow
AnArKiStIf there is anything that needs to be done, I can almost always contribute.
Dokujisanbtw everybody.... MooKow helped a lot with the April Fools project !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MooKowhey SoldierX
10:07Dokujisan:-)
MooKowlol Dokujisan XD
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SoldierXwhat was the April fools project?? . . .I have been really busy, which is why i havent been around in the last couple weeks.
Dokujisanit was awesome hehe
MooKowwell, Dokujisan, I'm here to read, filter, and represent TwEaK`'s few good ideas: http://nexuizninjaz.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=813&pid=7180#pid7180
Dokujisanit all came from shaggy's suggestion
10:08claysmyeah it was indeed interesting
Dokujisanya know, I like a lot of tweak's ideas that he has discussed in the past
MooKowthe only one i do not recommend is the one about getting on a popular ladder site....for the sake of unification
DokujisanI just don't agree with all of them, or all of the details
10:09MooKowheh
claysmor tweak in general
MooKowhaha
MooKowwell these are some useful ideas here
MooKowDokujisan: Shoutcasting for tourney/ladder matchs (with video if possible)
DokujisanATTENTION, When you are done reading this page http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/ ... Then enter /me read the notes
10:10MooKowthat would be great
MooKow read the notes
SoldierX read the ntoes
MooKowhaha
AnArKiSt read the notes
MooKowfailtypo
SoldierXlol
ProjektGhost read the notes
slash\ read the notes
nifrek_ read the notes
10:11MmmMmmGudi read the notes
MooKowfail.
MooKowits /me read the notes
nifrek_I am providing guitar music that you can't hear while you guys are reading
ohaii read the notes
DokujisanSurbtop, pughar|busy T0olbox ohaii SleepyCoder claysm
DeathDoom read the notes
SoldierXslash\ we need to get the MiT server up again . . . and at yoru house
ohaii read the notes
nifrek_enjoy.
ohaii read the notes
ohaii read the notes
Dokujisanthere we go :-)
ohaii>:D
MmmMmmGudyes i need that... too quiet here
MooKowohaii: seriosly, only once
DokujisanAnnKittyKat,
T0olboxsweet, Nifrek
ohaiiI did it once, Dokujisan said my name, so i did it a couple more imes
10:12AnArKiStohaii: This is serious.
ohaiitimes*
BorTEK read the notes
ohaii.........
SoldierXmaybe ohaii is just excited, like me
Dokujisanis pav around?
claysm reda the notes
claysmread
ohaiifial
ProjektGhostread*
T0olboxdoubt it
Dokujisanok I think we're good now
Dokujisanmost people here read the page
MooKowkay thats 11 people
MooKowthats good
pughar|busy already read it
nifrek_pavlvs
MooKow12
10:13ohaiiMooKow: 16 if you count all me's
DokujisanOK, Who here has a point to raise...any concerns...counter thoughts?
DokujisanWho here is in agreement with the idea?
MooKowwell, as i stated before, i represent TwEaK`'s ideas
ProjektGhost agrees
MooKowwhich everyone can find here: http://nexuizninjaz.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=813&pid=7180#pid7180
pughar|busyI would like to see public 1v1 server!
MooKowthat would be nice
[-z-]dojo has 1v1
10:14MooKoweveryone, ideas ideas IDEAS!!!
[-z-]btw, hi, just got back from dinner / show
SoldierX would like to see Mumble becoming active again.
DokujisanMooKow, this discussion is about the gameplan to have a community team to get things accomplished. We can discuss strategies later on.
MooKow36 minds are better than 1!
MooKowk do
MooKowDokujisan:
MooKowk
MooKowwell Dokujisan, besides this next week, i'll have way too much spare time
10:15MooKowI can join this foreseen community team
Dokujisanok, who here is interested in joining said NCT? say /me is interested
ohaiiMe too, if anyone cares.
SoldierX would also like to see an active NA minsta server.
ohaii is interested
AnArKiStYes, I have spare bandwidth that I am more than willing to share. Nexuiz servers run laggy though.
ohaiiSoldierX: Intoxicated minsta?
Dokujisanok, who here is interested in joining said NCT? say /me is interested
MmmMmmGud is interested, but do not know what i can contribute
ohaii is interested
AnArKiSt in interested.
MooKow is interested
SoldierXohaii: its empy quite often
ProjektGhostan UPDATED minsta server would be nice
MooKow is actually already in it technically
claysm will help if he can
slash\ is interested
10:16MooKow NexuizClans.com XD
shaggythe meeting started early..
Dokujisanok... we all seem to agree with the idea of forming a community team and having me direct it. Awesome
SoldierXI dont have enough time to active in NCT
Dokujisannow let's discuss the actuall points mentioned in the notes
shaggyOh Dokujisan
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DokujisanWho has serverrs in our little community?
Dokujisanlike rockdon, etc
10:17slash\SoldierX does
ohaiiI don't but with a little help i /might/ be able to throw one up
shaggyI setup this page for Australian nexuiz but could be easily addapted to all nexuiz. http://nexmarket.wikispaces.com/
SoldierXI have a server, that is not being used atm
nifrek_ has a server, only 10 slots tho
MooKowDokujisan: i used to, but its gone now :(
nifrek_I'm willing to do whatever with it
SoldierXi just need a house to host it, with a good internet connection
10:18AnArKiStI can host one, as I have spare bandwidth. However the server I ran in the past had lag issues.
ohaiiDokujisan: I could get an actual physical server, money isn't really a problem here
MooKowDokujisan: mine's set up though, i could start it up at any time
MmmMmmGudare we looking for 1 server, or a lot of them
MooKoweither
MooKowas much as you can contribute
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10:19pavlvssup guys
Dokujisanwe are looking for as many servers as we can get
claysmthey pavs
Dokujisanhey pav :-)
MooKowpavlvs: na community meeting
ohaiiDokujisan: where is the bets place to host a server?
ohaiiDC, TX?
ohaiibest*
pavlvsprae will very soon have servers
MooKowquick start for you pavlvs: Dokujisan has a plan/dream.
pavlvshosted in KC
SoldierXI think when it comes to nexuiz, a dedicated server is best. Home servers just cant keep up with the required bandwidth.
nifrek_we should also discuss public/private servers, as someone mentionned, there's the dojo that is public that can be used for 1v1 but not a lot of people seem to know about it, also MiT's clan server can be vcalled to any gamemode
10:20Dokujisaneventually, we should discuss what exactly we would need
ohaiiMaybe moving one of the Batcaves to Public?
Dokujisanbut I think that's dependant upon some other conversations we haven't had yet
pavlvsprae's server includes 3 private servers
ohaii /maybe/
pavlvstentatively named praecaves
Dokujisanohaii, I'm open to the idea
Dokujisanpraecaves, nice
pavlvsrofl
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MooKowmeh, Dokujisan, you already have a HODM
pavlvswell, a better name would be nice
mib_2vf945XD
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nifrek_I played a 1v1 earlier on MiT's server and it seemed like some players never saw a good duel before, it seemed to have a good affect to get them interested
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Jean-Luchi
praebotprivet, jean-luc
DokujisanMiT has servers too?
MooKowthat'll be cool, nifrek_
MooKowyes Dokujisan
Dokujisanhow many?
MooKow:D
MooKowi think 2
nifrek_one, ome d dragon's
MooKowmaybe only 1
MooKowah k
nifrek_it is public
DeathDoomwhy do u need more servers? the only ones ive ever seen full are the noob ctf games
Dokujisanok I know about ome's server. I've helped him with it before
DokujisanDeathDoom, we have a lot of projects to plan on
MooKowDokujisan: how about, we select 1 person from each clan to motivate the clan to "market" for nexuiz
SoldierXDokujisan: MiT has 2 servers, ome dragons, and then my server.
Dokujisanand for some of them we could use servers
10:22nifrek_I think players should play more often duels publicly
pavlvsyesplz
MooKowe.g. motivate to host servers, get the rest of the clan speaking about nexuiz, make useful players aware
Dokujisanalright, I'm going through the list of items
Dokujisanmentioned in the notes
MooKowDokujisan: effectively, that could be the clan leader, but maybe no
Dokujisanlet's not jump ahead
MooKowmk, fine
nifrek_because new players that connect are forced to spectate and then can see how cool nexuiz actually can be
Dokujisan4. Regular community meetings
MooKowill wait till you guys are done
Dokujisanare we good for every 2 weeks?
MooKowthat'll be cool
MooKowbut
nifrek_sounds good
10:23MooKowwe'll have a different channel, Dokujisan
ohaiiDokujisan: I am.
MooKowmaybe #na.nexuiz ?
shaggy reads
Dokujisanok, I skipped. Nexuizclans.com. Has everyone here looked at Nexuizclans.com?
MooKowhell yes
MooKowmod there XD
MooKowGUYS, NexuizClans.com REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN IN
nifrek_personnaly I dont it needs a new channel, it's good that everyone can see/read what is going on with the community, that's basically the point
MmmMmmGudno havent seen it
Scorpion_agreed.
annkittyYes
DokujisanIf you have looked at or registered with nexuizclans.com, say /me has
10:24MooKow has
claysm has
nifrek_ has
ohaii has
Scorpion_ likes cheese
Dokujisanlol
annkitty has
AnArKiSt has
slash\ has
ohaii laughs at Scorpion_
AzruelliFuck my sideways, sorry.
shaggy has
ProjektGhost has (just now)
AzruelliI keep getting people hassling me for stuff.
SoldierX is looking now
Scorpion_um... can we just look at the site to see who has joined?
AzruelliIt's making me ragequit.
MmmMmmGud has just now
DokujisanSide note...does anyone here have an IRC client with a large scroll buffer? To save this chat?
shaggyyes
MooKowDokujisan:
Dokujisank
MooKowyes
MooKowkonversation
10:25MooKowlogs
MooKowftw
shaggyMooKow: YAY!
MooKow:)
annkittyLol
DokujisanOk...the Nex topic is 5. Training sessions
Scorpion_i think these 4v4 ctf clan matches HAVE to be public and advertized atleast a week in advanced
Scorpion_woops.
DokujisanWho here remembers the group training sessions from last year?
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10:26shaggyMe.
Dokujisanthey were done spontaneously
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nifrek_I can help with 1v1 training, whenever I have the time, people should feel free to ask
shaggythey were good too
Dokujisangreat
AnArKiStI wasn't here then.
claysmnor i
MooKowi do Dokujisan
Dokujisanwho here is willing to run a training session?
annkittyI want to be the dummy
MooKowDokujisan: i am willing, but i suck
MooKowBUT, I pwn at teaching
slash\ is not good enough :D
shaggyI'd like to discuss NBC..
MooKowyes
10:27MooKowat this time, it'd be great to bring up NBC
shaggyNBC had/s a lot of potential but it seems to have died...
MmmMmmGudi'd like to , but i am not gud enough - i need training
MooKowshaggy: no
AnArKiStMe too, but I don't know if I'm cut out to be a teacher.
nifrek_I prefer giving lessons to individuals tho rather than group
ohaiiI could perhaps help train movement a bit, if Dokujisan thinks im good enough..
DokujisanFor training sessions, this is the idea that I have from our Bootcamp project....
DokujisanCollect notes on bits to cover
MooKowNBC still exists
Dokujisanso that it creates a curriculum, of sorts
DeathDoomNBC?
praebot[nbc] where you can go to become a better player, and is not a news channel.
shaggyMaybe died was harsh but its activity in the community has dropped.
MooKow#nbc.nexuiz
Jean-Lucnbc?
praebotsomebody said nbc was where you can go to become a better player, and is not a news channel.
nifrek_yes, I wanted to do that for a long time, writing a huge 1v1 guide
MooKownifrek_: that would be great for NBC
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shaggyDokujisan: I also think we should have planned trainings like we used to.
ProjektGhosti might be able to hold training, if people agree that i have anything to teach
10:28MooKowPlasmaSheep: you're a bit late
DokujisanWe need to start with something....collecting notes for training
MooKowbut dont worry, im logging
Dokujisanwe can always add onto it later
PlasmaSheepMooKow: waa
Dokujisanbut if we have training sessions, we should sorta be on the same general page
PlasmaSheepMooKow: 10 est, no?
nifrek_from now on I will take notes everything I think about something, usually when people ask for advices
_6xapparently im late too, MooKow
MooKowPlasmaSheep: this is 10:30
nifrek_everytime*
AnArKiStA huge 1v1 guide will be a huge help to me, nifrek_. 1v1 is my worst gametype.
Dokujisanok, 6. Moderators.....
nifrek_ProjektGhost definitely is good enough to teach 1v1
AnArKiStI'm willing.
DokujisanWho is willing to help with moderating servers?
10:29ohaiiI'm in, Dokujisan
shaggyI will.
nifrek_ is
AnArKiSt is willing.
Dokujisanpublic or private
ohaii will
_6xi as well
shaggy is
claysm shall do his part
SoldierX is willing
MooKow is HELLYEAH WILLING OOOOOOOOOO PICK ME
Scorpion_ can do anything... sorta..
MooKow PWNS YOU ALL AT BOSSING OTHERS AROUND
MooKowlol
ohaii notes that there is no lack in Modes
ohaiiMods*
Jean-Lucwhat moderation is needed?
Dokujisan gives Scorpion_ a carrot and some lube... and $20
Dokujisando it for the community, scorp
MmmMmmGudsure but u'd have to tell me how
claysmnice
pavlvsD:
ohaiiLOL
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shaggylol
10:30AnArKiStI do not want to be a mod to boss people around. That would be counterproductive to the goal of this meeting.
Dokujisan7. Use of Mumble
Jean-Luchi, dragon
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC ..... 7. Use of Mumble
MooKow
AnArKiSt: it was a joke lol
Scorpion_ starts a company and makes 500mil
Dokujisanmake that more clear
MooKowok Dokujisan
MooKowyeah
Om3Ddr4gonhey yo
MooKowMUMBLE NEEDS USE ALSO GUYS
DokujisanWe need to get everyone using mumble, even if they don't have a mic
Om3Ddr4gonwat up
AnArKiStI like voice chat.
MooKowYou have this great team chat utility here guys
Dokujisanand I could use help in getting mumble setup
SoldierXI miss using mumble
_6xhaha what a day for me to buy a headset then
MooKowhalf of you dont even know about it
Dokujisanwhat I need is help in organizing a list of EVERYBODY
Scorpion_Have you guys heard of Ventrillo?
SoldierXDokujisan: is your mumble server still up?
10:31Dokujisanlast time I tried this, it was over 100 people
MmmMmmGudmumble? will have to look into
claysmi think team binds are more useful than chat
Dokujisandid you know we had over 100 active community members?
annkittyI Loe mumbleeeeeee
pavlvsDokujisan: do you really need to give everyone a login/pw?
annkittyLoce
MooKowDokujisan: i could believe it
Dokujisanwell I had 100 users added to Mumble...and that wasn't everybody
T0olboxto a degree they are, claysm
_6xagreed, claysm, but not that many people use them
T0olboxbut there are some things you just can't use team binds for
Dokujisanmumble is good for just general chat
MooKowthat's pretty amazing Dokujisan
Dokujisanbut also great for matches
MooKowand to consider only 42 are here now
claysmi've used mumble for matches too, but i just like binds better
Dokujisanand other games use voice chat pretty regularly
10:32MooKowMumble is great for ingame
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC ...... 8. Bootcamp
annkittyAgreed
MooKowBOOT CAMP
Dokujisanthis stems fro previous training discussion where we need to establish training notes
annkittyI'm the dummy.
MooKowGUYS, WE NEED MORE TRAINERS
Dokujisanand have willing trainers
shaggyI think there needs to be a training mod.
MooKowANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A TRAINER, SAY /me will
10:33claysm isn't good enough to train other people
MooKowONLY IF YOU MEAN IT
MooKow will
_6xtrain me and i shall train more in return. win win situation
shaggy is.
AnArKiSt will
DokujisanOVERVIEW: The way that bootcamp worked before is we had a channel #nbc.nexuiz where everybody willing to be a trainer would idle
ohaii will try
Dokujisanand I setup a page called http://nullgaming.com/bootcamp
MooKowmost of which were ops
ProjektGhost will try, also
MmmMmmGud would but need to be trained to see how its done
MooKowohaii: you're great at movement
T0olboxI give people basic advice if I like their attitudes
MooKowMmmMmmGud: we'll have a class for that
ohaiiMooKow: ehhh
MooKowT0olbox: n00bs are n00bs, you have to understand
ohaiiOk, ill Help with movement :D
SoldierXohaii: I think we want you back in MiT
10:34SoldierX:P
MooKowSoldierX: .........
MooKowrawr
claysmsome people just don't want to learn
ohaiiSoldierX: ima PB :'(
claysmthey want to whine
Dokujisansome of us would setup binds that would say somethign like "hey, we're offering free Nexuiz Training sessions for those new to Nexuiz. If you're interested go to Nullgaming.com/bootcamp
SoldierXa PB?
Dokujisanand when they got there, it would use Mibbit on the page to take them to the IRC channel
ohaiiPeace Brother
T0olboxat what point did I say I didn't understand that, MooKow
T0olbox?
ohaiiSoldierX: we can discuss this later
AnArKiStPlease let me know the time and place for the class for willing Nexuiz teachers.
SoldierXok
DokujisanWhen they got to the channel, they would ask for training. If a trainer is available, they would take them to a Bootcamp server
10:35Dokujisanso bootcamp training is NOT SCHEDULED training
MooKowT0olbox: you said 'if i like their attitudes', meaning selective training. In bootcamp, you train classes pretty much
MmmMmmGudyes, the broadcast of providing lessons would work nicely
MooKowDokujisan: we set up classes too, remember?
Dokujisanyes, a side idea that would help bootcamp would be to create videos
DokujisanMooKow, we tried, but I don't think it worked very well. We could do both
nifrek_sorry was afk a min
ohaiiDokujisan: I can create short Movement videos, Im good at that :)
MooKowyeah we should do both
MmmMmmGudyes videos would be good
T0olboxI was saying how I give tips on pubs currently
nifrek_ NBC I can
DokujisanMooKow, either way, I think it's valuable to be able to spontaneously train someone who is new to NExuiz
MooKowah ok T0olbox
MooKowyes Dokujisan
10:36MooKowsometimes a schedule doesnt work
MooKowshedule ill say
DokujisanI was planning a project last year for video training
Dokujisanhttp://www.circlefusion.com/projects/nexuiz/
AnArKiStShould me make a name tag to tell people that we are teachers?
Dokujisanand I know pav worked on something similar once, he made a video or two
pavlvsyeah :\
MooKowoh yeah, i remember that site
shaggythat could be a very usfull site doku.
Dokujisanand I think there were some other attempts...-z- made a couple vids
T0olboxit wouldn't be a good idea for me to teach a class anyway
10:37claysmtwhy's that
MooKowclaysm: sarcasmoblaster
MooKowXD
shaggyDokujisan: I think it'd be a good idea to try to follow through with that one.
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claysmoh i know
T0olboxnot at all, MooKow
MooKownot exactly the 'warm up person kinda guy'
MooKowlol T0olbox
ohaiiI think We should make a big config for all the noobs, just a basic one, So Noobs get a boost from the start
MooKowwhy not then, T0olbox?
MooKowohaii: we already have the ninja pack
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC...... . 9. Please don't impede activity
MooKowOh hell no
AnArKiSt100% agreed.
_6xthe config will disable HLAC and crylink use, right?
MooKowANYONE WHO WANTS TO IMPEDE ACTIVITY
10:38DokujisanIf you don't like any of the plans here...please try to see them through anyway
MooKowTALK TO ME
nifrek_hmm alright, I think writing a 1v1 guide with some videos with examples for some situations would be good, I can work on that
claysm concurs
MooKowBUT I TALK WITH MY FISTS
DokujisanWe need _Something_ to happen
MooKowyeah
T0olboxbecause there's nothing I'm so proficient at in Nexuiz that there aren't enough people available who would do a far better job of teaching it than I would
claysmoh
DokujisanT0olbox, you only need to be better than a complete noob
MooKowT0olbox: as stated above, we can train you
MooKowto be a teacher
MooKowand to be better
Dokujisanbecause those are the type of people we would be brining in through bootcamp
MooKowor find one thing in nexuiz you're _really_ good at
ohaiihydronex :O
10:39MooKowand then specifically teach that
claysm is good at losing
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC.................. 10. Communication Channels
Jean-Luci offer myself to be trained to be a teacher :)
MooKowspeaking of channels guys, STAY ON IRC
DokujisanOne of the things that I did successfully in early 2008 was help people communicate
Jean-Lucbut not before being trained :)
MooKowthere's so many more people in the NA community that arent on irc
Dokujisanand so when someone big is going on, we need to make sure the word gets around
T0olboxohaii, you should teach that
MooKowand they need to be
Dokujisanand take advantage of ALL of our communication channels
MooKowthe guys on irc are actually pretty much hand picked
ohaiiT0olbox: not really...
10:40DokujisanEven if 98% of the people on public servers don't care, we could attract attention from the other 2%
T0olboxwhy not? you're better at movement than I am, and that map is pretty much all about flying around
Dokujisanif we announce a major clan match, or something
shaggyDokujisan: I think nexuiznews could be used for that.
Dokujisanshaggy, I'll get to that soon
shaggyLike a quick announcement section or something.
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10:41Dokujisanthat's item # 12 on my list
Dokujisanwe're on # 10
shaggyoh sorry
MooKowDokujisan: or announcements about IRC in a pub
AnArKiStA moderated shoutbox might help too.
shaggy jumped the gun :P
shaggyHrmm
claysm spanks shaggy
MooKow
AnArKiSt: yeah
Scorpion_ is item #11
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC................... 11. Map Development
MooKowHell yes
nifrek_<AnArKiSt> A moderated shoutbox might help too. <--- that's a good idea
T0olbox*cough*
MooKowi think ill take it here Dokujisan
DokujisanThis is a big sore spot with Nexuiz
shaggyI guess we'd need some sort of announcement system..
MooKowyeah
MooKowwe dont have enough mappers basically
10:42Dokujisanand this is something where we've had a milion conversations about what could be done, but usually things don't get done
Scorpion_and the ones WE DO have...
MooKowyeah
SoldierXso we need to get new mappers involved
MooKowScorpion_: stfu :P
Scorpion_lol
claysmhaha
Dokujisanso we shoudl organize our notes on map suggestions, map enhancements, etc...and put those notes on OUNS
MooKowGuys, we have so many places to go for mapping resources and stuff
shaggyWe need a new map site (design)
MooKowMapjutsu is a big giant wart of mapping
MmmMmmGudmappers will prob come from the noobs
shaggyMaps.nn is good but it really doesn't help new mappers show off their maps.
MooKowwe do need a new map site
MooKowthat would be sweet
nifrek_we need mappers who are WILLING to hear suggestions, let players TEST the maps before making official release, work on item placement, etc.
MooKowshaggy: mapjutsu does
MooKowin the forums
Dokujisanlike Tweak mentioned some UT maps that should should make for Nexuiz....I would like for someone to investigate that
shaggySomething like that shows in order of adds etc
MooKowand mapjutsu is more than forum-side
shaggyMooKow: where?
MooKowwe've got SVN if you ask
10:43MooKowshaggy: nn.com
MooKowforums
MmmMmmGud could test
MooKowmapjutsu
shaggyk
DokujisanUnknown is working on Q3 map conversions...we shoudl test those out
Dokujisannifrek and dib are working on final_rage_CTF
Dokujisanwe should test that out
shaggythose cpma maps are excellent too
MooKowand guys, if you're interested in mapping, type /me is interested
DokujisanYES... we could use more mappers
slash\i think an SVN system for maps would be kinda cool
DokujisanMooKow should keep the mapping project on NN alive
SoldierXThe mit clan offers a map repository: http://maps.themitclan.com/ it hasnt been updated in awhile tho
MmmMmmGud cannot make the maps but can test em
nifrek_actually I'm working f_r ctf and dib is working on ruiner ctf
MooKowif you're interested, you can contact me later in IRC or in the NN.com forums
T0olboxMoo and I are working on one that should be ready for a release soon
10:44Dokujisanahh...ruiner_CTF is good too
MooKowDokujisan: im pretty sure im keeping it alive :P
Dokujisancool
MooKowDokujisan: it IS the second most popular forum
MooKowin nn.com
MooKowso i'd say im doing a pretty good job
AnnKittyKatrawr
MooKowso guys
slash\is Strahleman still around?
DokujisanMooKow, are you doing map making teaching sessions?
slash\he made some awesome maps
Dokujisanlike before
shaggyMooKow: is there a mapjutsu webpage?
ohaiiBTW guys, I'm speaking in part of me and my brother
MooKowshaggy: no its just forum so far
MooKowand SVN
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DokujisanI would like to collect a LIST OF MAP MAKERS
10:45Dokujisanthat is very important
MooKowDokujisan: im one
SoldierXthats blatantly obvious
MooKowGUYS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT MAPPING, SAY /me is interested
DokujisanI've personally gone through the effort of contacting mappers who made some maps for nexuiz, but then we didn't hear from them again
AnArKiStI made a map today, but I'm still fairly new at it.
ohaii./idea Map Tutoring?
ohaiiMap Making?
ohaiit
SoldierX Mookow I am interested in learnign mapmaking
MooKowyes
T0olboxneeds moar 70mm13
MooKowSoldierX: k remember to contact me later
MooKowi can help teach
MooKowand give tutorials
Dokujisanyes, someone should contact 70mm again
10:46Dokujisanget that guy back into nexuiz
Dokujisanheh
MooKowheck yes
T0olboxmost of his maps are fantastic
SoldierXMooKow: wait another 2 weeks tho, till school is done. Then I have a lot more time on my hands
Scorpion_Quick questions, how many items are on your list Doku?
DokujisanI often run into people who are new to Nexuiz and have mapping experience from other games
MooKowok SoldierX that's cool
Dokujisanhttp://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
Dokujisan13 items
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC.............. Using OUNS and NexuizNews.com
10:47DokujisanOUNS is our knowledge base
Dokujisanwe need to use it as such
slash\id like to learn mapping too, but i need to figure out installing netradiant on linux lol
AnnKittyKatdouble paw is a map maker
Dokujisanit's on NN now, so it has more capability than the previous Wiki app
MooKowslash\: its a simple compile
Dokujisanusing dokuwiki
MooKowhaha
T0olboxDubl makes some good maps
MooKowdokuwiki
MooKowi love it btw
SoldierXslash\: ill teach you how to compile source code later
MooKowyeah dubl makes some epic maps
slash\ok
SoldierXslash\: its not hard at all
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MooKowbut seriously guys, anyone interested in mapping, talk to me
10:48DokujisanNexuizNews.com is a new project that I am involved with. I made the website and there are a handful of contributors
MooKowPCLizard: giant NA community discussion
MooKowit's logged
DokujisanA lot of our activity will be overviewd on that site
MooKowDokujisan: I'll take a look at it now
DokujisanThe site isn't officially announced, but we're about to announce it
Dokujisanso I thought I'd tell you now
AnArKiStWill do, MooKow.
DokujisanFor example, there should be an article talking about this Community Meeting
10:49Dokujisanwith a link to the IRC log
Dokujisanon nexuiznews.com
PCLizardHmm?
praebot[hmm] all this because u dont know the password for the latest build, or are even those outdated ?
DokujisanPCL... http://www.nullgaming.com/nexuiz/community/
PCLizardMoo and I will help spread the word about it on complexical.
DokujisanNEXT TOPIC.... #13 Launching mini-projects
DokujisanWe often have a ton of ideas
Dokujisana lot of us
Dokujisanlittle min-projects
10:50PCLizardReading it, sorry for missing the beginning of it.
DokujisanI would like to take notes on those projects and put then on OUNS
PCLizardI've been out all day >_>
Dokujisanand make that our place where we can all keep track
_6xhow good is the QuakeC tutorial on OUNS?
Dokujisanit's simple right now, I think
DokujisanDiv wrote it
Dokujisanit's a starting point, I think
MooKowk, ive gotta go get my stitches out(painful)
Dokujisanbut not in depth
MooKowGUYS REMEMBER TO TALK TO ME LATER
MooKow changes nick to AfKow
_6xthats something im highly interested in
Dokujisanthat's great!
10:51Dokujisanok.... That's all I got for my list of topics to talk about
_6xare there atleast other resources out there i can track down?
Dokujisan_6x, I think there are some links from that page on OUNS
SoldierXIs nexuiz written mostly in C??
Dokujisanyes
shaggyI am in favour of a video tutorial site.
_6xalright, when i get a chance ill take a more in depth look
DokujisanC is for the engine. QuakeC is for the Nexuiz gamecode
10:52Dokujisanafaik
SoldierXdo you have enough develepors at the moment?
Dokujisannot at all
Dokujisanwe always need more
Dokujisanwe have one main one
Dokujisanand a few that add in bits and pieces
SoldierXI know someone who I might be able to interest.
slash\who>
slash\?
SoldierXowen of course
DokujisanThat is a project right there... a push to find more developers for Nexuiz
pavlvsno
10:53pavlvsthat's not needed too much
pavlvswhat IS needed is small projects that new developerrs can do
pavlvsthere was already a push for new developers, and the release of 2.5
SoldierXpavlvs: has a point, a small tight group of devs is better than a large un organized group
Dokujisanpavlvs, have there been any efforts to get the word out (outside of alientrap.org)
pavlvsthese brought tons of new people to irc and forums, asking how they could help
10:54pavlvsyes, i think so
DokujisanWe not have that dev.alientrap.org project manager
pavlvsbut, they all disappear because there is nothing small for them to do
Dokujisannow*
SoldierXI remeber [-z-] talking about getting college student onboard
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praebotYAYYY snapz is back..im so excited !!!!!
Dokujisanpavlvs, then that is part of the same project that I'm talking about
Dokujisannow only get their interest, but have resources available and make it easy for them to get involvd
pavlvsit was really frustrating to me to see so many willing and able people show up
Dokujisanwe can help with that
10:55DokujisanI would categorize that under the same topic of "get more nexuiz developers"
pavlvsmmk
Dokujisan...creating small projects for them to work on
10:56Dokujisanok....more comments welcomed
Dokujisanif anyone has any
DokujisanPCL just got here, so he might have some input
AnArKiStI have none on this issue atm.
PCLizardSure.
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T0olboxspeaking of small projects
PCLizardWell, I'll go over my opinion 1 topic at a time
10:57Dokujisanyes, if you have small project ideas, dump them onto us now. Feel free.
Dokujisanor wait until PCL is done
nifrekYAY FOR ROOMATES
T0olboxI messed around and made my own sound pack that a few people use, and I do know that Lamoot at one point seemed interested in alternate model packs as well
PCLizardFor 1: I can help out there.
PCLizardAnd I think I can find some others that can help too
AfKowbaaaaaaaack
AfKow changes nick to MooKow
PCLizardwb
MooKownot painful atall
10:58MooKowis the meeting done?
MooKowjeez u guys are silent
AnArKiStNo
Scorpion_When you showed..
T0olboxlol
10:59Scorpion_ is debby downer
PCLizard2: I can help somewhat with that. I was trying to start a race server, but ultimately failed for the strangest reason. I couldn't get the server to show up on the public server list
PCLizardYou can ask MooKow about that as well >_>
slash\port forwarding
PCLizardNo....
MooKowPCLizard: actually, there's a new variable aparently
PCLizardI have all of that set up
PCLizardOh really now?
MooKowyeah
MooKowill tell later
PCLizardJust pm me it
11:00AnArKiStMe too, please.
Dokujisanok...I'll read in a sec....brb though
[-z-]div squashed a lot of resources
_6xdid you guys plan this meeting to coincide with the lunetist road trip?
[-z-]for whatever reason
PCLizard3: I think we should take advantage of that as well.
_6xlol
[-z-]we could have hooked up with Google Summer of Code, which would have been awesome
11:01PCLizard4: I agree 100%.
snapzI hear bangbros is doing a tour
MooKowwait nvm
PCLizard5. I'd like to teach other people, so I can help out there.
MooKowPCLizard: AnArKiSt i cant find the variable
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11:02AnArKiStOkay. Thanks for trying.
PCLizard6. Well, I know you trust me somewhat; You gave me the rcon_restricted password to the bcs :P
MooKowyou should trust meeeeeeeeeEEEeeeeeeeEEEeeeEEEeeEEEEeeE!
MooKowgimme rconrestr pass for bcs IM WILLING! XD
11:03DokujisanMooKow, ok I will
MooKow:)
DokujisanI'll add you to the list
[-z-]I spend yesterday cleaning up some code
MooKowmk
PCLizard7. Yeah, mumble does improve teamwork entirely. I'd like to see it used more.
Scorpion_i really want to become more active in the community... but i'm really not that "computer genius"....
[-z-]http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/px281i5bfntpt2704mf0.png
[-z-]much more dynamic now
[-z-]still ugly as shit
[-z-]but very functional
DokujisanDoes everybody know about -z-'s map repository project?
11:04AnArKiStYes.
_6xno
MooKowYes
Dokujisan-z- that is awesome
AnArKiStI do, at least.
MmmMmmGudno
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slash\yeah
[-z-]I plan on tying that into the web management scripts as well
[-z-]then you can just login to your server and pull maps from the repo through the web application
Dokujisan! :-)
[-z-]I think I mentioned custom RSS feeds for favorite maps as well
PCLizard8. I really am for this. I liked the original idea and would like to see it revived.
SoldierX yes
[-z-]it's a lot of work though >_<
11:05[-z-]and a lot of safety needs to be taken into consideration
SoldierXsafety??
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[-z-]uhh yah... controlling a server through a web application?
shaggy[-z-]: that looks awesome!
SoldierXohh, i see what you mean
shaggyoh and [-z-] I got an AU nexuiz server up
[-z-]this web interface will also interface with NST functions
MooKowok, so Dokujisan, meeting adjourned?
PCLizard9. I agree with that as well.
SoldierX[-z-]: does it use any encryption for authentication?
[-z-]of course
DokujisanMooKow, almost
11:06MooKowoh wait
MooKowwe need comments from everyone else
[-z-]and I reccomend users use https
MooKowwhoops
SoldierXssl?
SoldierXoh.
SoldierXgood
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SoldierXdo servers have to implement ssl then?
[-z-]but the bigger issue is getting NST functions running... that'll be up to advanced linux admins
MooKowok, I bring in TwEaK`'s ideas, then: http://www.nexuizninjaz.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=813&pid=7180#pid7180
[-z-]because it will require you messing with your sudoers
11:07SoldierX[-z-]: where is the latest version of nst??
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[-z-] sets user mode -o: [-z-] is no longer a room operator
Q sets user mode +o: [-z-] is now a room operator
[-z-]this web app is not yet released
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[-z-]it's in private development SVN
AnnKittyKatrawr
MooKowmee
SoldierXwell then the most resent release?
[-z-]the idea is to let apache run temporarily as the nexuiz server user
[-z-]http://github.com/z/nst
SoldierX. . . interesting
[-z-]I can make a screen cast of this
11:08PCLizard10. I agree with this as well.
DokujisanMooKow, some of tweaks ideas there are good, but some are a bit unrealistic for Nexuiz, or don't quite fit in with other projects.
MooKowwell
Dokujisanlike the shoutcasting, that's quite involved
MooKowyou have to admit the shoutcast is great
[-z-]man... I need to separate my nexuiz into seperate nexuiz launchers
MooKowyeah
MooKowXD
Dokujisanpowerrankings...some were working on ideas for that... -z-
11:09slash\powerrankings would rock
[-z-]no idea what you mean
_6xi would be a zero :D
Dokujisanwell, stats, basically
MooKowyeah
[-z-]oh I see
MooKowthat would be great
Dokujisanthat's what "powerrankings" is....stats
[-z-]well I'm waiting on some sql queries from alpha
[-z-]I made a front page mockup for the statistics
Dokujisanor it depends on stats
Scorpion_i thought Dib was wokring on some sort of statistic thing..
MooKowspeaking of coders....WE NEED THEM TOO
PCLizard11. I totally agree with this, and would help get that started.
11:10MooKowSleepyCoder: you can code, help!!!
SleepyCoderehh?
[-z-]http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/kbmmzbdsmk0j9vk7w8l4.png
Dokujisanregular tournaments.... that's where nexuizclans.com comes in. I don't think we are going to use another site, because we have projects in mind to tie-into such a site.
[-z-]colors are a little fubar on the red/blue
[-z-]but I'll fix that in the CSS
PCLizard12: Seems fine to me.
Dokujisanin other words, if we used an existing popular tourney website, then we would limit ourselves on our other projects
PCLizard13. I'm all for that.
Dokujisanwe have developers here. We are open source. We have advantages
11:11MooKowopen source ftmfw
Dokujisanwe might as well take advantage of those
shaggy[-z-]: does NST work with windows?
PCLizardAnd that's pretty much my opinions on those topics
SleepyCoderSigh.... I just want to smack people that join servers with grotesque names. :\
[-z-]shaggy: no
SleepyCoder"Stinky Pussy"
PCLizardI'll brb
shaggy:(
SoldierXgood night everyone
SleepyCodernn
shaggygn
SleepyCoder2
SleepyCoderu
MooKowSleepyCoder: well that's a GREAT way to get involved....*sarcasm*
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SleepyCoder is currently on Windows. :p
11:12MooKowbut still
SleepyCoderAnd webdev gives me nightmares.
SleepyCoderHTML must die.
Dokujisanok.... who can give me a log file of this chat?
MooKowk, then get linux
MooKowDokujisan: i can
DokujisanI don't hvae my IRC client setup properly yet
MooKowand then put it in a pastebin
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SleepyCoderMost understandardized crappy-ass language ever. :<
Dokujisank
[-z-]working on a screencast of this..
MooKowand Dokujisan, remove all join/part messages
Dokujisansure
slash\my chat buffer overflowed a while ago lol
AnArKiStDokujisan: I can provide a log.
Dokujisanwell, sometimes they make sense for the conversation
SleepyCoderWell, it has a standard... but browsers never follow it, so you wind up writing CSS for every browser fuckup rather than for the standard. T.T
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shaggylol what do you do when your log file gets too big to open :P
Dokujisanlike when PCL joined
11:13PlasmaSheepshaggy: cat
MooKowk Dokujisan
MooKowkeep them in then
shaggycat?
praebotcat is, like, a kitty
AnnKittyKatim a cat PlasmaSheep
MooKowlink them to the NA community meeting topic though
11:14PlasmaSheepSorry, guys. I think I messed up on the timezones and my computer went to sleep.
PlasmaSheepWas it 10 EST?
[-z-]of course the map changes when I start recording
PlasmaSheepas in, US/EST?
PlasmaSheepWait, what?
11:15PlasmaSheepmaps?
praebotmaps are the best example it seems
PlasmaSheep is confused
MooKow[-z-]: could you link me to the nn.com pastebin?
PlasmaSheeppastebin.nexuizninjaz.com
ohaiiis the conversation still going on?
PlasmaSheepprolly
PlasmaSheepohaii: nope
ohaiiok :D
11:16ohaiiill be in #nbc.nexuiz now
ohaiikthxbai
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Dokujisan[-z-], do you know a tool to color-code IRC logs for HTML output?
Jean-Luc.j nbc.nexuiz
PlasmaSheepMooKow: http://toolz.nexuizninjaz.com/pb/